Comments on: Why Childproof “Smart Guns” are a Bad Idea http://www.learnaboutguns.com/2008/09/18/why-childproof-smart-guns-are-a-bad-idea/ Firearm information and politics from a gun rights perspective, with an emphasis on self defense rights. Thu, 09 Sep 2010 07:42:13 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: hicusdicus http://www.learnaboutguns.com/2008/09/18/why-childproof-smart-guns-are-a-bad-idea/comment-page-1/#comment-9448 hicusdicus Fri, 07 May 2010 13:54:06 +0000 http://www.learnaboutguns.com/?p=401#comment-9448 Why not use the Obama lock. That is when you weld the barrel shut but leave a live round in the gun. This ploy will help reduce the conservative base. Why not use the Obama lock. That is when you weld the barrel shut but leave a live round in the gun. This ploy will help reduce the conservative base.

]]> By: Herrbaggs http://www.learnaboutguns.com/2008/09/18/why-childproof-smart-guns-are-a-bad-idea/comment-page-1/#comment-9447 Herrbaggs Fri, 07 May 2010 13:49:57 +0000 http://www.learnaboutguns.com/?p=401#comment-9447 I think you are getting to deep into the philosophy of human kind. Stupid people should be allowed to shoot them selves. I would help reduce the unemployment roles and keep them off the highways. I think you are getting to deep into the philosophy of human kind. Stupid people should be allowed to shoot them selves. I would help reduce the unemployment roles and keep them off the highways.

]]> By: noone http://www.learnaboutguns.com/2008/09/18/why-childproof-smart-guns-are-a-bad-idea/comment-page-1/#comment-9442 noone Fri, 07 May 2010 06:48:32 +0000 http://www.learnaboutguns.com/?p=401#comment-9442 Yes, I understand all the problems inherent to the magna trigger system, and my reply was not a shrine for smart guns (even it looked like it). Still, the magna trigger is simpler and therefore safer than any electric system: if I must, by law, use a smart gun, that would be my choice. I told "The only thing to rememeber is to always wear two rings..." this is, of course, mandatory for every person which could use the handgun. It will still stop a third party from using the gun in self defence, but if the other choice is, by law, to keep the handgun locked up or with a trigger lock... Yes, I understand all the problems inherent to the magna trigger system, and my reply was not a shrine for smart guns (even it looked like it).
Still, the magna trigger is simpler and therefore safer than any electric system: if I must, by law, use a smart gun, that would be my choice.
I told “The only thing to rememeber is to always wear two rings…” this is, of course, mandatory for every person which could use the handgun. It will still stop a third party from using the gun in self defence, but if the other choice is, by law, to keep the handgun locked up or with a trigger lock…

]]> By: The LearnAboutGuns.com Author http://www.learnaboutguns.com/2008/09/18/why-childproof-smart-guns-are-a-bad-idea/comment-page-1/#comment-9440 The LearnAboutGuns.com Author Thu, 06 May 2010 10:40:15 +0000 http://www.learnaboutguns.com/?p=401#comment-9440 No matter how reliable that magnetic system may seem, it still adds complexity and additional points of failure. An ordinary gun without that "safety" feature will still be more reliable, as no mechanical/electrical/magnetic/whatever system is 100% reliable. Also, even if it were truly 100% reliable, that system will still inadvertently prevent a spouse or other 3rd party from firing the gun in self defense, should they not have that magnetic ring on their finger. No matter how reliable that magnetic system may seem, it still adds complexity and additional points of failure. An ordinary gun without that “safety” feature will still be more reliable, as no mechanical/electrical/magnetic/whatever system is 100% reliable.

Also, even if it were truly 100% reliable, that system will still inadvertently prevent a spouse or other 3rd party from firing the gun in self defense, should they not have that magnetic ring on their finger.

]]> By: noone http://www.learnaboutguns.com/2008/09/18/why-childproof-smart-guns-are-a-bad-idea/comment-page-1/#comment-9439 noone Thu, 06 May 2010 09:09:47 +0000 http://www.learnaboutguns.com/?p=401#comment-9439 In this, you're not totally right. A kind of "smart gun" exist from a long time (I think since 1980), and is the magna trigger sistem, which can be installed on some Smith & Wesson (and Ruger) revolver. The magna trigger is a magnetic system that prevents the trigger of the handgun from being pulled unless the user of the gun wears a special magnetic ring that short circuits the magnetic cut-off of the trigger. The only thing to remember is to always wear two rings, one on each hand, and the system will work flawlessy. To give the idea of how safe this system is, it was Massad Ayoob's choice for a self defence handgun when his daughters were small. In this, you’re not totally right.
A kind of “smart gun” exist from a long time (I think since 1980), and is the magna trigger sistem, which can be installed on some Smith & Wesson (and Ruger) revolver.
The magna trigger is a magnetic system that prevents the trigger of the handgun from being pulled unless the user of the gun wears a special magnetic ring that short circuits the magnetic cut-off of the trigger.
The only thing to remember is to always wear two rings, one on each hand, and the system will work flawlessy.
To give the idea of how safe this system is, it was Massad Ayoob’s choice for a self defence handgun when his daughters were small.

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