Los Angeles Considers More Ineffective Gun Laws

Published by the LearnAboutGuns.com Author on February 18, 2009 at 12:01 pm
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As reported, the city of Los Angeles, CA is considering a new ordinance that would ban individuals convicted of certain misdemeanors from lawfully owning a gun (felons are already banned from gun ownership at the state and federal level).  This proposed law, authored by Los Angeles City Council members Jack Weiss and Janice Hahn, would ban individuals who have been convicted of carrying a concealed weapon, possessing an assault weapon, burglary, or gang crimes from owning a gun for 10 years.  On the surface, this might seem like a good thing, however I’m of the opinion that this law would be both ineffective and bad thing for the gun rights of law abiding citizens:

Ineffectiveness at stopping criminals from having a gun
A central point of my pro gun rights arguments tends to be that criminals are, by definition, people who don’t obey the law.  That means that passing a law that tell criminals not to own a gun is just one more law for the criminals to ignore, just like they ignore the laws against murder, rape, robbery, burglary, etc.  As the evidence shows, criminals who want a gun will just go buy one on the black market, allowing them to bypass background checks/waiting periods, and possibly buy a much more powerful gun than they could have bought in a legal gun store.  Making matters worse, those same black market gun dealers then become even more powerful, creating a cycle of violent criminality.

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Bad for the gun rights of law abiding citizens
The precedent that this law would create also concerns me.  If these misdemeanors can result in a citizen losing their right to lawfully own a gun for a decade, then it is not hard to imagine the Los Angeles City Council extending such gun restrictions to other crimes.  Perhaps one day, LA residents could be stripped of their gun rights after a traffic offense?

Gun ownership is a fundamental right, and a generally necessary part of effective self defense.  If a crime is so minor that it is classified only as a misdemeanor, then it seems to me that the government is not justified in taking away that right to gun ownership, especially for such a long period of time.  This is especially true given the fact that such a restriction won’t disarm the criminals, and that even those who have been convicted of crimes may still need to defend themselves against violent attackers.

My thanks to Anders for pointing out this proposed law.

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  • Miranda

    You are so right! Instead of creating a new law, what needs to be done is to make "carrying a concealed weapon, possessing an assault weapon, burglary, or gang crimes" FELONIES! Then they would be covered under existing laws.

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    I agree with you about the ineffectiveness of those new gun laws. I also agree with heavily punishing burglary and gang related crimes.

    However I strongly disagree with your statements about punishing the carrying of a concealed firearm, or possessing a so-called assault weapon. That is because carrying a concealed firearm is not a wrong like burglary. Instead, it is the most effective means of self defense that exists. We should work to ensure that more law abiding people are armed, so that they can defend themselves against those gang members and other violent criminals. Similarly, there is no such thing as an "assault weapon," and there is nothing wrong with possessing such a weapon. Those so-called "assault weapons" are well suited for self defense, and banning them just makes law abiding people less able to defend themselves. Also note that criminals rarely use such weapons in crime, making such bans even more unreasonable.

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  • BasinBictory

    While I live in the greater L.A. area, I'm glad I'm no longer an actual resident of the city. The irony of all these gun laws is that many people I know who live and work in L.A. often pack heat (illegally – because obtaining a CCW in california is about as easy as getting courtside tickets to a Lakers game) because of the "I'd rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6" mantra.